Gen. McInerney: “Just Say ‘Yes’ to Racial Profiling!”

4 01 2010

The U.S. has received several neatly-wrapped Christmas presents this holiday season in the form of terrorist threats, suicide-bomb attempts and American teens-turned-Jihadists trying to creep over the Pakistani border.

This has been alarming to many Americans, to say the least, and airlines are talking about further increasing security measures so that now, in addition to having to relinquish their lip gloss and zit cream at the security gate, international travelers may be subjected to “full-body pat-downs, carry-on bag searches, full-body scanning and explosive detection technology.”

I’m not sure that this is going to be helpful at all, as terrorists will just continue to find ways around whatever kind of airport security we dream up, but I’m willing to be patted down if it prevents a suicide bomber or two from boarding someone’s plane.  What I do have a problem with is retired military General Tom McInerney going on Fox News and telling the public that all Muslims between the ages of 18 and 28 should be automatically strip-searched at airports.

When host Julie Panderas disagrees with McInerney, saying that racial profiling will just “generate more violence and hatred towards the West,” Gen. McInerney replies, “It’s not racial profiling, it’s profiling just like the Israelis do… I want to profile on that group that we have enough evidence from 9/11 and other cases…that we know what we’re looking at….If we continue to become politically correct, then we’re going to have a disaster.”

Yes, political correctness is our biggest weakness.  Let’s be more like the Israelis, who have been at war since their country’s existence.  Instead of racial profiling, we will be profiling based on race.  Do you see the distinction?

…asshole.  I personally think all retired military Generals should be strip-searched before going on Fox News.  And don’t neglect the hard-to-reach places! You never know what they’re hiding in there.

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26 responses

4 01 2010
keithosaunders

It wasn’t political correctness that led to the security breeches of September 11th or the underwear bomber. It was sloppy security. Why are Americans so willing to go down this slippery slope towards a police state when the reward, at best, is microscopic?

4 01 2010
Geof

Rambler: Yes, the distinction between racial profiling and profiling by race is clear. It’s like how the freedom we give up by consenting to searches of our person and property, warrantless access to private information by government agents, and paying hundreds of billions in blood and treasure for endless wars instead of say, healthcare and education, helps us to actually have MORE freedom than we did before. So it’s even better than foregoing racial profiling for profiling be race because it generates a freedom profit.

Keith: The majority of people are bad at assessing risk and probability. If we were better at it, we’d be more afraid of mundane things like driving, saturated fats and refined sugar, and cigarette smoke, since those are by far the deadliest killers running amok, and less of terrorists. AND let’s not forget the second most effective terrorist attack on U.S. was perpetrated by a white American citizen and veteran, Tim McVeigh. It has a lot to do with being motivated by fears of the worst rather than hopes for the best. Fears control us, hope frees us.

McInerny you dumb mothertrucker (he reads this blog right?): We already have two giant disasters in the form of two fucked up countries we are occupying. BTW, Israel is part of our problem. I don’t think emulating them is the answer, so I agree with Rambler. In fact, our support of Israel is one of those al-qaeda’s SOBs primary beefs with the U.S. And isn’t political correctness just saying things to conform to the established norms of some in-group? Both the right and the left have their versions of political correctness.

4 01 2010
bros

israel being a particularly great example of a gigantic politically correct bolus.

4 01 2010
bros

im going to take heat for this, but i actually think thats exactly what they should have been doing. Irshad Manji was on TV the other day arguing for it and that muslims, as members of the public, should have no problem being searched, because their protection was at stake as well. all muslims arent terrorists, but 99% of the bombers on airplanes are muslims, a fact which cant be ignored. I do think that there needs to be something more than a name as justification to be strip searched. for instance, if my name is durka durka mohammad jihad AND ive just been to yemen and i’m on a list, i should get searched. of course, in a smart world where people are supposed to be sharing information, searches at airports would be superfluous because my visa would have been revoked once it was seen my name was mr. al qaeda and I had just been to Yemen. basically there is no reason for anyone to go to yemen ever unless you are an aspiring terrorist. also one more reason for me to keep my maiden name.

4 01 2010
Geof

the name durka durka mohammad jihad is very funny to me. i’m trying to reconcile this feeling with my awareness of its political in-correctness in many circles. i will balance this feeling out with by creating an equally fictive, but resonantly true name of an american:
hamburger daryl northrup-grumman

4 01 2010
districtramblings

haha GENIUS. if we make fun of ourselves too, then we’re off the hook for laughing.

how bout monolingual fatty mcdoughnut

4 01 2010
bros

i didnt make that up-it was taken from team america: world police. if you recall, that was their version of the way muslim terrorists talked.

one of the funniest things ever

4 01 2010
Geof

not only off the hook, but we can take criticism a little more easily when we can laugh at ourselves. a lot of the world hasn’t learned to laugh at itself. ask arabs who do stand-up comedy. rough audience back home.
monolingual is good! how about:
gravytrain trustfund racist mccreditcard
hipster iphone finickyvegan tightpants
nobodylikesme so mcshooteveryone at work

4 01 2010
BS

This comment was a perfect example. You start from the notion of racial profiling and end off with there is no reason to go to Yemen unless you’re a terrorist.

All in one paragraph.

4 01 2010
Geof

I agree. come on bros, break up your paragraphs to separate your ideas. do you turn papers in with this sort of sloppy writing?

4 01 2010
bros

I believe I was consistent all the way through my argument. I am in favor of ethnoreligious profiling. not racial profiling though.

5 01 2010
Geof

i didn’t actually agree. it was a sad attempt at levity

4 01 2010
गेब्रियल

Those pundits who go speak on Fox News have a lot hidden up their asses. It would take SO long to adequately search them… no way it’ll happen.

On a side note, the fact that the Israelis have been at war since their inception is in no way indicative of their methods. They are not the ones starting all the wars…

4 01 2010
Geof

True, israel didn’t start the wars, and attempted to peaceably settle the area, but that isn’t the problem. part 1of problem is that many in the arab/muslim world would like to see israel wiped off the face of the earth and we support israel to the tune of billions of dollars in aid every year b/c of judeochristan mythology about the jewish people occupying the homeland for the first coming/return of the messiah AND we like having an non-arab ally in the region where 25% of our oil comes from. part 2 of problem is most palestinians live in squalor because of the combined efforts of the israeli gov’t and the surrounding arab states that also refuse to do anything to actually help the palestinians, like letting them emigrate, or putting together a competent military alliance to crush the israelis. they have proven that route to be fruitless, since the arab states mostly suck at war and the israelis are hard core ass kickers since ’48. part 3 of problem is powerful state like isreal looks bad by creating shitty ghettoes for palestinians to live in b/c they keep doing dumb shit like blowing themselves up in markets and buses b/c they are too ignorant to come up with something better, like some Gandhi/MLKjr moves.

4 01 2010
BS

Yes, completely agree, when someone is trying to “peacefully settle” your land, you need to just chill out for a bit. Learn from the native americans, I say.

Also, agree that it’s important to blame the palestinians for not being MLK/Ghandi enough. I mean, just because our tax dollars are being used to create 60 years of death, oppression, and displacement, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t lecture them on their methods of resistance. When israel kills 1400, and the palestinians kill 10, i think it’s important to focus on how Palestine should be more nonviolent.

4 01 2010
Geof

Oh, you’re just being sarcastic now. I guess I came off as more pro-Israel than I am, maybe the ass kicking comment. They undeniably kick ass, but at this point they are shooting street urchins throwing rocks instead of Egyptian tanks. Not very cool.
“Your” land? Who the land belongs to isn’t really that clear. what should be regarded? int’l treaty? colonial law? squatters rights? ancient history? mythology? I’d love to know which one takes precedence.

It’s always ok to blame people for murder, whether they be Israeli or Palestinian perpetrators. Both sides are perpetrators of evil acts, and both sides have many more people who just want to live their lives. what is the qu’ran quote? “to kill one man is to kill all of humanity?” Sorry, I prefer not to give moral authority to the side that killed fewer. I am anti-Israeli, anti-Palestinian, pro-people who want to chill out and not kill. Suicide bombing is an ignorant methodology, and does not gain moral high ground or sympathy, as non-violent methods do. It also results in GREATER oppression from the powerful Israeli nation-state that has its boot on the Palestinian neck, so its also a losing strategy. An adventurous soul might liken the present Israeli state to the Third Reich. Maybe they aren’t seeking the Final Solution, but in an attempt to protect themselves, they have created a state that involves second-class citizens living in ghettos. This produces street urchins susceptible to the suggestion that blowing themselves up might help their cause. OH MY GOD! I just discovered a vicious cycle at work! Who could have guessed after only 60 years, three generations, of this clusterfuck, that both sides are culpable. Maybe we should a) stop funding it and b) give any palestinians who want to leave that arid piece of crap real estate and move somewhere nice the means to do so.

4 01 2010
BS

Agreed, there is so much more to judge israel on than merely that fact alone. So much more.

4 01 2010
bros

this is what i was getting at by my israel bolus comment. no one can do a damn thing because the israelis have laid claim to any and all conversation/dialogue about the holocaust and used that as a barrier and a cloak in the form of antisemitism so that any action or any thought that remotely contradicts israels raison d’etre is interpreted as antisemitism, choking off any productive actions or thought processes that arent in favor of israel. Im not antisemitic, but I have no problem saying israel is the root cause of of some f#cked up sh!t and gets away with far more than it should due to the convolution of bizarre evangelical nonsense and politically correct spineless pussyfooting around. that being said, refer to my above comments that mr. taliban A. jihad who has had a trip to yemen ought to have his panties searched. the two arent mutually exclusive.

4 01 2010
Vjane

I have a question for the General. Who decides at the airport if the person to be strip searched is actually a Muslim ?? He might look like a Muslim but who says he is. And strip all between thje ages of 18 – 28 – Many terrorists are 17 or younger or 29 and older. I think the General’s brain is where the sun don’t shine. And all Muslims are not terrorists. Most are peaceful good citizens. I hate this conversation.

6 01 2010
rockymtnhigh

Since when is Muslim a race? It’s a religious label. Much like practicing Judaism doesn’t mean your of Jewish decent. But that’s another discussion.

The pundits don’t understand what they’re really talking about (which is 95% of the time) and especially when they call search Muslims racial profiling. It’s religious profiling.

The security measures would be best applied to anyone, regardless of name, ethnicity, or religious persuasion, to be thoroughly scrutinized if they travel from or through a particular country of interest known to have terrorist organizations. American traveling through Iran? Get pulled aside for additional questions and search. Chinese traveling from Sudan? Same. Ethiopian traveling from the Philippines? You betcha. Arab traveling to DC via Berlin. Oh yeah. The latest attempt wasn’t a breach of American security, it was a breach of international airport security in a Danish airport. So all this conservative noise about how the Obama administration isn’t taking terrorist threats seriously is a red herring. We can’t dictate security measures in foreign airports unless we treat a portion of each airport flying to the U.S. as U.S. soil and set up border security there. Much like we do at Montreal and Calgary Airports.

Anyway…good article in highlighting the inane & insane commentary on FOX. CNN is a close second these days as well.

6 01 2010
districtramblings

Religious discrimination is racial discrimination in this instance, because the way that security officials will determine who’s “Muslim” is by looking at them and considering what part of the world they’re from. It’s not like you have to write your religion on your passport– there’s no other way to screen Muslims than to screen people who look like Muslims, which is a race-based assumption.

7 01 2010
Paul C

Easy now, folks. Why do people avoid sketchy areas when they are driving at night? Are they profiling by not driving through Cabrini-Green in Chicago? Sometimes we need replace all the foofy political-correctness with a healthy dose of common sense. Its has nothing to do with personal freedoms. I am personally free to fly to Jamaica if you want to. Oh no, wait, I can’t because I dont have wings. Without expressing an opinion on the interview above, it must be acknowledged that by agreeing to fly on a public airline, you may have to sacrifice some personal liberties. You’re marrying everyone else on that plane. If you dont like it, you have the option not to fly. Ask yourself if you were running an airline and you had limited resources and time to search everyone and you have a choice between searching grandma or a 22-year old arab chap with a truly terrorizing name, who are you going to search? Yes, he may be slightly insulted and his Chakra wounded, but spending time searching grandma isnt going to make any sense. Surely we have bigger things to worry about, like that lady on the bed Laura found for the T/B post. I know that’s an extreme example, but for the love of all that is good and pure in this world, could we stop being so sensitive and PC.
-PC

7 01 2010
districtramblings

Haha. PC, you make some good points, and no, you will not catch me frolicking in the streets of Cabrini-Green any time soon. But do you really think it’s fair to STRIP-SEARCH all Muslims between the ages of 18 and 28 before they board planes? We’re creating more terrorists than we are stopping by making enemies out of the entire Muslim world.

7 01 2010
districtramblings

I would also like to add that Cabrini-Green is not equivalent to the middle east, because it’s more about economic differences than racial differences. It’s a violent slum. I’d be just as afraid of it if 100% of the people that lived there were caucasian.

7 01 2010
Paul C

OK, strip-searching every single Arab (you can’t strip search every Muslim because Islam is a religion, not a race) is a little extreme, but there are plenty other ways to profile. My point is on the profiling, if it works. Look, McInerney is no doubt a clown who gets more money for guns the more he pushes his agenda, but lets not throw the baby out w/ the bathwater.

Off topic, but bear w/ me: a few years ago there was a media frenzy in SA when it was discovered the President’s blood had been thrown out after he donated because he hadn’t filled out the info forms correctly. The whole fiasco led to an investigation into the screens the agency ran on blood donations to make sure they could limit the chances that ‘tainted blood’ – meaning blood from someone who was HIV positive, but had somehow slipped through the initial HIV test – got through to a recipient. After some initial upproar into how unfair it was and racist, etc, etc ad infinitum, the head of the agency (a doctor who happened to be, just like virtually the entire agency, and of course the entire gov’t – black) came out and basically laid it out like this: roughly 3% of the blood that passed initial screens for HIV was still HIV positive. Apparently, there is a brief period between infection and the virus taking hold where it doesnt show up in screens. Anyway, by profiling for race (one of the questions on the donor questionnaire) they could limit the amount of “tainted blood” by something like 97%. He – again, a black guy, who beside the point but immediately became one of my heros – basically said that they were interested in minimizing the number of people getting tainted blood and nothing else. If someone had a better way to get the same results, they would listen, but until that time, “cry me a river” (not his exact words). What’s my point? Don’t let bruising a few egos get in the way of something that could potentially save hundreds of millions (if they dont have to buy these new screening machines they are all looking at, security surcharges, etc.) American has no money), lots of time, and maybe a few lives. I know there is a big, arguably gray area in the middle there, but people have a choice: if they don’t like it, they can choose not to fly, or if one airline is unreasonable with their screens, people can vote with their feet and fly another airline. I used to work for an airline and I can tell you its already a stretched business model. I guess I just want things to go back to the way they were. I hope this makes some sense.
-pc

7 01 2010
CB

PC, you definitely make sense. District, maybe you and the Huff Post could interview some local arabs about this subject and see what they say about the profiling and their willingness to be screened, because like Bros said, their lives are just as much at risk from terrorists when they fly as everyone else’s.

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